Darksoul / HPI Baja Road Race Build

[CRANKY OLD MAN]

Untill or boy finds time to post someting new can someone give me some basic set up tips for running a 5b onroad ??? Thanks cranky

[Jason Mac]

Pretty much the onroad setup is all in the shocks. We set our cars with this basic setup

Front;
1 degree toe out
1mm shim in upper front arm
yellow rear long shock springs
gold sway bar

Rear;
3.5 degrees camber
3 degrees toe in
black front shock springs
black sway bar

Ride height around 1.25"

[DarkSoul Racing]

Thanks for posting that up Jason, Sorry I haven't been more on top of this Cranky, I got slammed at the shop last week (actually a good thing) and have been playing catch up. I should have some time this coming week to finish up the build post.

[CRANKY OLD MAN]

Hey man i know your super busy it's oohtay

[MAXXTRAX77]

This looks like a good thread to follow... Nice looking build so far!

[upDUHcreek]

I noticed you don't use the Threshold umbrella seals in you shock build. I've never used them, but I just bought a set to install for a race just over 2 weeks away.

Is there a specific reason you don't use them? I'm hoping it's because your tearing down your shocks every week anyway, so there isn't enough leakage to justify using them.

[DarkSoul Racing]

Originally Posted by upDUHcreek

I noticed you don't use the Threshold umbrella seals in you shock build. I've never used them, but I just bought a set to install for a race just over 2 weeks away.

Is there a specific reason you don't use them? I'm hoping it's because your tearing down your shocks every week anyway, so there isn't enough leakage to justify using them.

Its more of a price thing. $35 for a set of 4 seals vs. $8 for 16 o-rings (4 rebuilds). Even if the Threshholds lasted the same amount of time as the 4 sets of -rings, you still saved a lot of money. Roadracing isn't nearly as hard on the shock seals as offroad, and short of breaking something, I don't think I ever rebuild road race shocks in a given season.

I have heard both pros and cons on them (like pretty much everything), so you should throw them in, and let us know what you think.

[upDUHcreek]

I got the shock repair kits that include the shaft and the valve body. I plan on setting up one set of valve bodies with the threshold seals, and one set with your o-rings. That should make it easy for me to decide what the differences are. This will be the first time I've rebuilt my shocks, and I've owned my Baja over a year now. It might take another 3 years for me to decide which ones I like better at that rate.

[upDUHcreek]

I don't like the threshold seals at all. Two of the seals aparently got bent while I was pressing them into the valve body, with the provided tool. Now the shocks they are in won't compress all the way because the shaft isn't lined up properly. I don't have enough shock oil to rebuild them again before the race tomorrow, so I'm screwed. I really wish I would have tried the ds rings first now. Oh well, no use crying over spilt milk. I've got to finish packing so I can start heading to Texas.

[govtech]

the yellow springs you mention,they are not stock with the 5bss i think,who sells them,?

[biggiecamp]

Originally Posted by upDUHcreek

I don't like the threshold seals at all. Two of the seals aparently got bent while I was pressing them into the valve body, with the provided tool. Now the shocks they are in won't compress all the way because the shaft isn't lined up properly. I don't have enough shock oil to rebuild them again before the race tomorrow, so I'm screwed. I really wish I would have tried the ds rings first now. Oh well, no use crying over spilt milk. I've got to finish packing so I can start heading to Texas.

It's a bit late now, but watch Underdog's YouTube video on installing the seals.

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[biggiecamp]

Originally Posted by govtech

the yellow springs you mention,they are not stock with the 5bss i think,who sells them,?

Those are the HPI soft springs (yellow) available at all fine baja parts dealers. tgn, lsrc, ddm, etc etc etc

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[govtech]

thx bud ,i have not looked thru ddm full upgrades in a while

[biggiecamp]

Your welcome. Look in the "shock" upgrade area when looking at "upgrades by function" @ ddm. You'll find em easier that way

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[govtech]

its better that way for sure ,all good ..

[govtech]

another quick question,do i need slicks or will my street tires that have some tread work,??

i ran it today again and was more successful as i was real carefull not to bark the throttle to much lmao !!

thx

[DarkSoul Racing]

Originally Posted by govtech

another quick question,do i need slicks or will my street tires that have some tread work,??

i ran it today again and was more successful as i was real carefull not to bark the throttle to much lmao !!

thx

If you are referring to the HPI Tarmac tires, they will work just fine. The slicks, in my experience work great if you are on a treated and prepared, VERY clean surface, other wise the dust and debris sticks to them an they get slippery.

At our road race series for the Baja, everyone uses Tarmacs, I think I have only seen a few people use slicks, and they end up back on Tarmacs.

[govtech]

yes,i have tarmacs ,sry,lol,and tyvm,makes sence

Rob

[dany5]

any updates .

[DarkSoul Racing]

Not much, last time out, I was having a true "off day" so I ended up only running 2 qualifiers. Nothing really changed on the setup.